mmmmmmayabe its getting a little off topic folks...

does the banana photo need to be so big?

Bang on Grets.

i gotta say i disagree with this one - i think i was at said bar on sat night - with a group of happily married mothers having a night out!!!
this town is very hard on women. you see a few of them dressed up having a good night out and immediately assume they must be 'desperate'. i have found that to be very rarely true...

And then again we from the States & UK. And we know that married women like to play too.

FYI folks
we now have a female moderator who has joined us to assist with running the EAS forums... up until now the forums were all moderated by males....

you have been warned... mwahahahahaha

OK.. So shall we get together tomorrow night (September 4th) at "Talking to a Stranger"?
I think there is enough interest now and hay what have you got to lose?

Ok.. 8 PM should work...

See you all there.

LLT

Alas I will be at the Germany symphony thing....

also i heard there's a big ISPP teacher's gathering happening at T2AS tomorrow night - could get a wee bit confusing....then again, more people to meet i suppose!

Yup, me too, at the German symphony. And Chekhov on Saturday. I challenge anyone to say there's no 'kulcha' in PP.

opera?

Yo, so how did yall meet and greet go?

Would you date a local man?
Do you find them attractive?

I have been working/living in Phnom Penh for 4 years and I am a single expat female in my thirties. I don’t talk about gender workshops, I am not an uptight NGO Intern but I do love a good game of pool and I don’t do elsewhere parties anymore.

In the past 4 years I have witnessed the entire bar scene. I agree that there does seem to be a lack of single, western men who are looking for an honest long term relationship with an expat female. Although, I do have friends who have found partners in PP and are now happily married, so it is possible!

I have been on quite a few dates with western men only to be disappointed by the results. A few examples are as follows; I have been stood up more than once, they were already married, had a long distance girlfriend back home, thought he might be gay, was dating my friend, mysterious neck injury, only after a one night stand, back-packers who needed an anti-bacterial scrub before they were allowed to enter the bar let alone enter me…, took me for a $200 meal with only $30 in his pocket, took me for a beer and then proceeded to tell me how much he wanted a Khmer bar girl, crazies who believe they were in love with me after 2 Tiger draughts….. I could go on……….but even so, many of these excuses could happen anywhere in the world.

So after many wasted efforts to meet a guy and after another miserable night in Pontoon watching Nigerian men hit on Khmer girls, my friends and I decided that a change of scenery might be on the cards. So we decided to head off to some Khmer clubs.

This has opened up a completely new scene for us. Not only were we welcomed by both male and female Khmer’s but the service is better, drinks are cheaper, the clientele are kinder and there are actual places to sit down and enjoy your drink and talk to each other without having to shout. More importantly, there is a whole new world of hot single men out there!

During this new social scene, I met a really nice Khmer man and I can assure you that NOT all Khmer men are womanizing … at least no more than the average western man. He is LOCAL and he has the body of an athlete!!!!

I have only just started dating this guy and while I admit that there are a lot of cultural differences between us, I have to say I have had some hilarious moments with this guy which makes it all the more interesting. We do have a significant age difference but I have been assured by my Khmer friends that this is not a problem in Cambodia; the only issue is between rich and poor. Apparently, in Cambodia the rich date the rich and the poor date the poor. My new boyfriend is very poor and I am considered rich. Personally I don’t give a rat’s @ss how much money he has, as that is not my custom or why I am dating him but it has confused some of my Khmer and western friends.

I am now dealing with the dilemma of explaining to my new man why, after only 3 dates I am not ready to meet his mother just yet………….. )))

way to go cosmic and more power to you !
please post about these clubs where the welcome is warm and the seats comfy!
i am new in town and have no idea about where to go for a relaxing evening of chatting and dancing.
thanks in advance
catherine

GIRL POWER on EAS...... Its about time....

good stuff cosmic...
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Anthony

kudos cosmic
It is good to hear some positive things about Khmer guys. The stereotyping on here sometimes gets a little out of hand (I am to blame as well). I think one of the common difficulties for western women dating Asian men is the difference of expectations that both parties have (or don't have) for the other.

I'd like to know what Khmer clubs have music that is quiet enough to talk as usually the music level is spinal tap loud

Ok everyone,
Are we going to have a get together soon?

I know there a lot of interested people on here but I get the feeling I would have to buy the first round of drinks.
Ahh well, thats what Ill do , the first round is on me,
Lets all meet at the Riverfront Bar at 9pm tonight 20th Sep.

See you tonight.

LLT

too bad, i was out of town!
catherine

I think EVERYONE was out of town...it was a ghost town for a while there.

did anyone catch up?

It was quiet wasnt it?

I guess there was a lot of people out of town.
A great night was had by all though.

Lets do it again next week.

LLT

So are we all back in town again?
I think this week was just sit back with a beer and veg!

Hope you all had fun what ever you did.

LLT

So are we back on for this meeting?

Are there still some peole interested?

Lets start throwing some dates and see what sticks shall we?

OK.. Great.. That's 3 of us then... Pass it on to more of your friends and see where it goes.

Venue?
Time?
Lets say Metro, on the waterfront at 8Pm?

Any other Ideas?

See ya
LLT

I don't envy you.

I travel when I can and have been doing so for many a year.
Somehow I always end up in Asia.

The Bar's are interesting, but not the "Be All” and “End All" of the experience.
They were a curiosity at first, but no longer.

When it comes to catching up with other expats, you are presented with 2 choices.
Short time "Gap People” ( no offense intended), or long term expats that might be a bit jaded.
Both of which come with a degree of baggage.

I have frequently been surprised by the number of drug fucked white women I find hiding in Asia, these are women who often hold responsible positions when at work – but just fall apart after hours.

Many of the Female Expat and Ladies who are in country for an extended period come across as hostile and often discouraged conversation. This may simply be a survival trait developed over time, however it places them in the same position as the Jaded Expat Male – it restricts their ability to interact with others.

There is a lot of “Pre Judgment” that takes place from both genders.

On top of all the usual issues that take place with establishing a relationship, you also need to consider the reason why Camb ( or Asia ) attracts you. Mostly it's because you find your place of birth to restricting, you just don't want to fit in at this point in your life.

Bare this in mind the next time you wonder why you encounter difficulties in finding that important other, they are having the same problem as you.

Having had my rant, I truly wish you luck because an active expat scene that includes "One and All" would be a great release from the pressure cooker you folk live in..

Kev

I missed Starship Troopers for that!!!

So how did it Go ?

Don't give up to soon. You will need to do this several times and have "No One" turn up before you start to get a group together.

Remember - not everyone checks the net each night ( well not ALL,,,, anyway )

If you can, set up an email link, either get them to give you a current email address ( or get them to create a new one ) and send them all an email saying drinks in 4 days time etc.

All the best.

Go cosmic-but where are these quiet khmer places?
Surely there is no such thing?
I wish there were!
Enlighten us-we aint goin to stalk ya.....

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