I am sitting here (in a Bar) thinking that it is not fair.
Western ladies in Asia just do not get a look in. Or do they?
(I am told)I am good looking tall well built and everything is in the right pace. (Last time I looked).
Believe it or not,
Going out in town is not a lot of fun for me.
I see a lot of western ladies out with friends (girl friends) where are the western men?
Is it because the white blokes are all out there running around after the Asian bar girls?
Or is it that the western girls are just not interested in western men.
Come on Girls, tell us what it is like for you to live here.
Would you date a local man?
Do you find them attractive?
Are you just not interested in having a relationship while you are away from home, and you are saving yourself for your prince charming?
Would any one be interested in meeting other single westerners?
Do you think we could have one night a week where we could all meet and just hang out?
Is it possible or am I dreaming?
Love to hear from you, even if you just think its a stupid idea.
ok, i'll bite...
am here, also sitting alone at cafés, with my laptop.
find me
catherine
OK. So there are not a lot of unhappy western ladies out there.....
Is there at least someone curious?
I mean, not all us blokes are interested in the local girls, as a conversation can be a lot more interesting than deciding which Nokia phone she wants next.
If you have any friends with story's, you don't have to used names or places to Protect the innocent
A lot of stereotypes running through your posts which I would guess is why you're not getting many bites. In your first sentence to mentioning local woman you qualify your perception of them using the term "bar girl" which we all know is often used as a polite way to say prostitute. Your next post then suggests that Asian women are only capable of shallow conversation, like I said these are some pretty sweeping stereotypes. I'm no Casanova but I do know that women are generally not impressed by men whose main method of making them self look attractive is to point out the deficiencies of others, perceived or otherwise.
I know many men around town who are not interested in asian girls but are having the problem as yourselfs.
Start a singles club or something to get you all in the same place.
Just a suggestion.
If i had the choice I would rather play connect 4 with a bar girl than sit in Metro and talk about Gender Workshops with some uptight little NGO intern.
KK
KK
This is what I mean
Playng connect four with a "bar girl" is hardly stimulating conversation.
I am guessing you have been in Asia for a while.?
Some of us get bored with this side of Expat life, but there are the others that thrive on the attention.
Maybe its reflection on the rest of their life.
Actually it was a piss take.
Anthony.....can we please have emoticons. Especially one of a little boy taking a wee so people know when I am TTP.
thanks
KK
i'm not surprised if you guys are striking out with generalisations like these. do you really think all women who work for NGOs sit around and talk about gender workshops? i'd rather poke my eye out with a fork.
i think Mr Life has some interesting points. it's the endless, age-old problem of how to find a partner isn't it? someone you really relate to, usually with a similar culture or values, who you find interesting &/or exciting to be around for a while at least.... it does seem alot harder in this town. but i find that about meeting people in general here - everyone has their own little clique going on already, so you have to have an 'introduction' then you find people are really open and friendly....
i too would love to meet somebody, as well as make some more friends in this town, but i gotta admit, i can't just go up to total strangers and hit on 'em!
maybe that singles bar suggestion ain't so stupid.
Thanks DJ36,
I think a get together or night out for us all would be better than a Singles Bar.
I too find it hard to meet people with simiar interests in PP.
I also know that there are people in relationships that also would like to meet people.
If the singels get along thats great.
We could have a miced bag of people that just want to connect.
So ill start the Ball rolling.
PM me with your Name and contact number if you are interested in meeting with others. This is not a singles only gathering, I know it will be small to start with but what the heck.
I will forward you the location and time..
Hows that?
Life
Good on ya lifes like that.
Can i come?
I know that we barangs are inclusive type people so i will bring my khmer fiancee.
She is a lot younger than me but luckily cannot speak english so any gender workshop discussion is out.
Will you have connect 4 available at the venue?
You mention a miced bag of people,I am confused by this.
I know that the khmers in the bush like to eat rats but mice?
Seriously,good luck with your quest,there are certainly some lovely expat women around town.
Perhaps instead of labeling it as a Singles Outing, u cld just call it a Boredom Intervention Outing (BIO), where all members must b on Twitter. And instead of hving set dates n locations n times, anyone who's part of this BIO Group can just decide to Tweet where they are at any time and anyone who happens to b near can just say Hi and plonk down at the same table n just chatter on as if they were old friends. Breaks the ice immediately. Fun can b had just by hving an actual person to talk to in actual proper english and actually b fully understood wtout hving to explain or simplify words. Not everyone is looking for a romantic relationship, just a buddy whether male or female to hang out with is more than fine.
what the hell is a twitter? some kind of new drug like E? If so, count me in on the BIO's...lets do some twitter until we are tweeting our butts off and then get naughty.
ahhh! now i know how large the age gap must be...u guysss! hahaha
tweet to meet.
how gay.
KK
I am getting a lot of PM's with ideas and people are interested in going with this.
We need to make it as easy and comfortable for everyone as possible, so a venue and introduction is needed.
I don't think people walking around with a red rose between there teeth will go down to well with Kid Khmer.
So send me some of your suggestions for the Location and how we will know each other.
I am looking at Friday the 4th Sep unless you all want to get together earlier?
LLT
sounds good.
given the aim of the evening, perhaps Talkin to a Stranger is ideal....
what's gay is a man wearing pink. which apparently makes up like over 80% of cambodian males in this country. Gah!
there may be a few pink shirts at this on Thursday The Glory Hole' Gay Club Night
he he. No tweet, most of my friends, single and in relationship don't have it and don't have the fanciest in town (ie no internet)
Great idea guys. Lets hope it works. It should, seeing the turnover of expats living here meaning every 'meet and greet' will have new faces
Actually I really miss talking to NGO chicks in khaki shorts about gender deconstructionism, and it's role in a post-U.N. world, at Cafe Frogsco, after attending another "wild" Elsewhere party on a Friday night.
Damn straight.. I've had enough of silky-haired vixens with velvet skin, and a body like a mermaid, and all their senseless teasing and intoxicating feminimity.
And, I aint talking about bargirls, just the normal local chicks.
It's horrible... where the hell is Foucault?
HDAH,
RESPECT !
KK
Happy Days: Amen
I moved to Asia over 10 years ago, and 10 years ago the foreign women were complaining that the foreign men didn't pay attention to them. I still think its funny.
In 10 years, i've never heard a barang male complaining that barang women in Asia don't pay attention to him...
Men that could never get laid in the west suddenly become ladies men when they move to asia...and these men are happy to stay surrounded by Asia women because western women are like kryptonite to them.
Western Women on the other hand go from countries that have women's rights and women's lib to countries in Asia where women have very few rights. They often don't want to date Asian men because of the womanizing, or so they are left with slim pickings.
These are all statements based on stereotypes and generalizations.
Remember, that in Asia, wealth is a physical attribute. It is an attribute that is generally regarded as attractive.
Work the rest out for yourselves.
But just meeting people where you don't have to explain everything you say is good. When you have been here for a while you will accumulate a group of like minded co-lingual friends and co-lingual enemies as well!!!
Any western bar in Phnom Penh would be a place to meet co-lingual people and normal social interaction occurs in these places. Breakfast, lunch or dinner. No point being shy. If you want to meet people you have to go out, have a job or do business. Same as anywhere.
Not all venues are sleaze pits. A lot are "family friendly" too.
This twitter thing is scary.
I don't want to confuse things too much, and make the battle lines all fuzzy and ambiguous, cos the war between the sexes that exists here is more fascinating to me than World War II.
Anyways, I kinda dig Western chicks, and also many of the local chicks (ie, both types) ..
I mean, if i meet a hot French chick, and she wants to talk 18th century classical liberalism and origins of feminism in a postmodern world ... don't you just buy her a few gin and tonics, until things go your way?
Can't we just unite, and dig chicks from all over the world?
Dawg?
Dawwwggg.
Here's to digging all the women all over the world, be they be of varied race, religion or creed! *someone ought to make a National Anthem on this!*
As Bill Murray states in Animal House:
"Man, we didn't come here just for the chicks ... we also came here for the ladies"
I refuse to be forced to join Twitter, another social networking site in order to meet people in the city that I live in. (I"m sorry but I do)
Secondly, for all the worries about Gender discussions with uptight NGO staff (or interns).... seriously, this is one complex discussion over where to meet for a couple drinks.
Bless you for the initiative. I think its a grand idea.
Similar to the FCC's valentine's day blind dating thing, you single expats should have a night, called:
"Feminist Post Modernism Deconstructionism in a post Male Construct World, and its Influence in the late 21st Century in South East Asia, with buy one, get on free at FCC"
I mean, what a laff, and what fun that would be, and a good opportunity for you single guys to seduce the expat chicks, innit
Need to lighten the fugg ups, and just have a laff
well, I'd be interested but I'm not of the NGO variety. I'm of the poor English teacher variety, and I'd love to know where all the guys that are interested in Western females rather than "bar girls" hang out, because it is damned tough living here alone as a single, white female (with morals ... i.e. who doesn't sleep around).
I wanna know where all the cuties go too. Because the clubs and bars that I have been goin to it seems all the Nigerians be beatin me to the punch. And my mouths dry.
The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints seems to have a good number of guys who are interested in western females. Fun activities include bike rides around town!
I'm actually a close stamp-collector, and avid train-spotter.
If any of you ladies want to hang out over a soda, and half a dozen 1975 non-demominated philatelics (they also came in commemorative editions you know), then buzz me (but not after 8.30pm on Friday nights, I watch Star Trek with my mother).
I know trains are a bit scarce in Cambodia, but we can also discuss hypothetically the muliple unit British class, versus the rail car ... also over a soda of course.
That sounds swell HDAH, after that maybe the ladies would be interested in a game of Magic the Gathering, or some D&D.
PS who do you think is better,Capt Kirk or Picard?
(seriously though, I used to collect stamps until my collection (worth over $10,000) was destroyed...and once upon a time I also played Magic the Gathering every occasion I could, then someone stole my magic cards (worth $700)...and I was an avid fan of star trek (the original and Next Generation)...yes I am a nerd at heart....in the west I would have to settle for a fellow dork for a girlfriend, but here in Asia I can smooch all sorts of hotties and they could care less that occasionally, I'll quote "MP's Quest for the Holy Grail" from start to finish.)
Bad Zoot! She is a naughty person. You must tie her down on a bed and spank her. You must spank her well. And then... spank me!
-Dingo
Mr Hercules,
If you want to beat the Nigerians to the punch, you're going to have start cruising the supermarket aisles at Lucky.
I hear that's where they pick up....
DJ
LOL! I do go to lucky. I aint think about hangin out there to pick up chicks tho.
Haha, not sure it will work though ) first days in PP i got stopped by a guy in lucky (not a Nigerian one though) asking me which washing powder i use for my laundry since he is new in PP and doesnt know any of the brands here... he gave me his card afterwards but i never called... so i dont really think it's a strategy that would work )
So why you didnt call? Whats the problem?
mind you though, i can understand his pain. after a life of not having to do your own laundry and then coming here on your own and faced with all those unintelligible characters on so many of those washing detergents, he must have been having an internal crisis of sorts. To this day, after two years here, i am still not sure i'm using the right detergents!
not my type... and washing powder discussion as a start of a romantic affair? might work for some, but not for me...
LOL! Well what should he have said......."Hey how you doin? What kinda condoms do you like? Because I like ribbed myself. Almost feel like you aint wearin anything." LMAO!!!!!!
Nah, just a bit of charm, humour and wit needed... whether it's in lucky, pontoon or java... neither your condoms, nor his washing powder...
LOL! Thats cool I feel ya.
So you like Pontoon? I went there once but I wasnt feelin it. I like Java. Their strawberry pie got me hooked!!!
I had that pie for the first time today and it's really delicious, i have to agree Pontoon is cool if you like dancing and if you know your people there, usually better on saturdays than on fridays, but can be crap, too... sometimes too many Nigerians to handle, but there is always a way how to escape
Charm...Humour...AND Wit? At Lucky and Pontoon??? Don't you think you're setting your standards a little high for the environment?
"always a way how to escape." LOL! You cant escape them Nigerians baby!!! You leave 'em on the dance floor, they at the bar, you leave em at the bar they at they bathroom, you leave em at the bathroom they outside in front.
Dancing? Nah, I dont call that dancin. Yall just be movin to the music. LOL!!!!
you guys need to study basic marketing strategy (STP: segmentation, targeting, positioning)
if you are trying to pick up broads in the supermarket, you need do it in the fruit section:
I was at a popular live music venue on the weekend and it was saturated with WW slurping on their sodas and trying to look all sexy. I went out to meet my partner and her friends ( all khmer ) and as they got out of the tuk tuk I said " lets get the hell out of here there are way to many WW in there....." and guess who was just getting off a moto as I said it and shot me a dirty look ? The chick that wrote the now infamous story for the PPP. *boom tish*
It was one of those Minty moments.
Does this popular live music venue have a name starting with 'M'? And every week the Phillipino house band plays exactly the same set (like watching Groundhog Day)?
If so, I was also there on the weekend with my partner and I totally agree! We sat and observed for 10 minutes (I love people watching) and I would say 80% women and it was a bit desperado. Guys, if you do want to meet expat women, this is definitely the place!